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	<title>Comments on: Where Have I been While My Peers Have Been Harrassed with the Holocaust?</title>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipstadt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipstadt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have posted a link to your blog http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/2008/03/holocaust-education-german-reflects.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have posted a link to your blog <a href="http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/2008/03/holocaust-education-german-reflects.html" rel="nofollow">http://lipstadt.blogspot.com/2008/03/holocaust-education-german-reflects.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jakob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jakob</dc:creator>
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		<description>Sadly, it&#039;s not a North/South thing. I grew up in Lower Saxony, and I learned even less about the Holocaust. I do remember the famous picture of the child in the Warsaw ghetto, presented with little context. I also remember a picture of a extermination camp, which, I believe, was Bergen-Belsen. I certainly did learn that the Nazis killed a lot of jews (even though I do remember being quite insecure about the actual number ...).
Please keep in mind that I visited a Gymnasium (something like High School) and that I continually got A and B grades in History (I even wrote my final exams on the Weimar Republic). Nevertheless, I didn&#039;t actually have an idea about the anti-Semitic ideology of the Nazis. As far as I was concerned, National Socialism was a dictature by a man (Hitler) who, for some reason, happpened to dislike Jews (whoever they were). Since i did not know any Jews, I considered them some kind of &quot;foreigners&quot; who, these days, were not present anymore in Germany. I don&#039;t think that I ever learned the least bit about the history of German Jewry at school (something that might have proven helpful not for &quot;understanding&quot; the holocaust, but for realizing what the murder of most of them truly meant). So the whole thing seemed somhow external to Germany in my eyes: There was this dictator, and there were these Jews. It was a bad time. People chose a bad leader because they had no jobs. Then there was war, which was also bad - that pretty much sums up my concept of what happened in Germany between 33 and 45.
My ignorance went even so far that I didn&#039;t have the slightest idea what the term anti-Semitism meant (which was not a problem in my history classes, because it tended not to crop up there). Considering myself anti-racist, I was quite confused by the use of &quot;anti&quot;. I finally concluded that &quot;semite&quot; was a word that was somehow connected to words like the English &quot;similar&quot;, and that an anti-Semitist was basically a racist, meaning someone who didn&#039;t believe in the &quot;similarity&quot; of people of different ethnicity - an &quot;anti-similarist&quot; (clearly, I didn&#039;t know about the different usages of English words like &quot;similar&quot; and &quot;equal&quot; back then). I remember that I finally got rid of this misconception when reading Moishe Postone in a reading group I started with some friends in my last year of school.
So, while I did learn about NS and the Holocaust at school, I didn&#039;t learn about the anti-Semitic ideology behind it. And I think this is the main reason, why, in school, I remained so deeply ignorant about the Holocaust. One might consider it problematic to teach schoolchildren about anti-Semitic ideology, even if it is to denounce this ideology. However, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, it&#8217;s not a North/South thing. I grew up in Lower Saxony, and I learned even less about the Holocaust. I do remember the famous picture of the child in the Warsaw ghetto, presented with little context. I also remember a picture of a extermination camp, which, I believe, was Bergen-Belsen. I certainly did learn that the Nazis killed a lot of jews (even though I do remember being quite insecure about the actual number &#8230;).<br />
Please keep in mind that I visited a Gymnasium (something like High School) and that I continually got A and B grades in History (I even wrote my final exams on the Weimar Republic). Nevertheless, I didn&#8217;t actually have an idea about the anti-Semitic ideology of the Nazis. As far as I was concerned, National Socialism was a dictature by a man (Hitler) who, for some reason, happpened to dislike Jews (whoever they were). Since i did not know any Jews, I considered them some kind of &#8220;foreigners&#8221; who, these days, were not present anymore in Germany. I don&#8217;t think that I ever learned the least bit about the history of German Jewry at school (something that might have proven helpful not for &#8220;understanding&#8221; the holocaust, but for realizing what the murder of most of them truly meant). So the whole thing seemed somhow external to Germany in my eyes: There was this dictator, and there were these Jews. It was a bad time. People chose a bad leader because they had no jobs. Then there was war, which was also bad &#8211; that pretty much sums up my concept of what happened in Germany between 33 and 45.<br />
My ignorance went even so far that I didn&#8217;t have the slightest idea what the term anti-Semitism meant (which was not a problem in my history classes, because it tended not to crop up there). Considering myself anti-racist, I was quite confused by the use of &#8220;anti&#8221;. I finally concluded that &#8220;semite&#8221; was a word that was somehow connected to words like the English &#8220;similar&#8221;, and that an anti-Semitist was basically a racist, meaning someone who didn&#8217;t believe in the &#8220;similarity&#8221; of people of different ethnicity &#8211; an &#8220;anti-similarist&#8221; (clearly, I didn&#8217;t know about the different usages of English words like &#8220;similar&#8221; and &#8220;equal&#8221; back then). I remember that I finally got rid of this misconception when reading Moishe Postone in a reading group I started with some friends in my last year of school.<br />
So, while I did learn about NS and the Holocaust at school, I didn&#8217;t learn about the anti-Semitic ideology behind it. And I think this is the main reason, why, in school, I remained so deeply ignorant about the Holocaust. One might consider it problematic to teach schoolchildren about anti-Semitic ideology, even if it is to denounce this ideology. However, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s an alternative.</p>
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