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	<title>Comments on: I think I&#8217;ve just about had it with Joomla</title>
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		<title>By: Eike</title>
		<link>http://diebesteallerzeiten.de/blog/2009/08/10/i-think-ive-just-about-had-it-with-joomla/comment-page-1/#comment-16843</link>
		<dc:creator>Eike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with you when it comes to Drupal - I think CCK and views together work much better than comparable modules in Joomla (views is hard to use, but it&#039;s not something that is exposed to the people who enter content, so that&#039;s okay with me). I tried both of jseblods CCKs and I think especially the small CCK is a clever piece of programming - but it jumps a hurdle that shouldn&#039;t be even there.

And I want to be clear that I don&#039;t want to discourage people from using Joomla - it&#039;s at least a stable and easy-to-use system and works well for most websites, it&#039;s just that I get more complex jobs these days and I find it a lot harder  than necessary to develop the functions I need (whereas in other systems they are alreay present).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you when it comes to Drupal &#8211; I think CCK and views together work much better than comparable modules in Joomla (views is hard to use, but it&#8217;s not something that is exposed to the people who enter content, so that&#8217;s okay with me). I tried both of jseblods CCKs and I think especially the small CCK is a clever piece of programming &#8211; but it jumps a hurdle that shouldn&#8217;t be even there.</p>
<p>And I want to be clear that I don&#8217;t want to discourage people from using Joomla &#8211; it&#8217;s at least a stable and easy-to-use system and works well for most websites, it&#8217;s just that I get more complex jobs these days and I find it a lot harder  than necessary to develop the functions I need (whereas in other systems they are alreay present).</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I agree with you, but jseblod have two CCK and one is the Little CCK with the WYDIWYS Editor. It&#039;s very simple because you must only create a simple file (template) with your fields and the WYDIWYS Editor detect them automatically. 5 min to add some fields to a Joomla articles. You can too use it in description Joomla categorie and other Joomla extension like Docman. But it&#039;s true this only for content view.
I use jseblod CCK. It is for me the best solution to do great content types on Joomla and display them in content view (one content or in a content list) and in form view (back office or front office). Content view and form view have too automatic template (win a lot of time). For this part jseblod CCK is more powerfull than Drupal (it have too import/export with Content Pack).
 About Drupal CCK, the basic system is too simple and the view concept a little hard to use. Field type are insufficient for all needs. I wait a more powerfull tool for Joomla to manage content list, but you are right currently there is none and it is really a big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I agree with you, but jseblod have two CCK and one is the Little CCK with the WYDIWYS Editor. It&#8217;s very simple because you must only create a simple file (template) with your fields and the WYDIWYS Editor detect them automatically. 5 min to add some fields to a Joomla articles. You can too use it in description Joomla categorie and other Joomla extension like Docman. But it&#8217;s true this only for content view.<br />
I use jseblod CCK. It is for me the best solution to do great content types on Joomla and display them in content view (one content or in a content list) and in form view (back office or front office). Content view and form view have too automatic template (win a lot of time). For this part jseblod CCK is more powerfull than Drupal (it have too import/export with Content Pack).<br />
 About Drupal CCK, the basic system is too simple and the view concept a little hard to use. Field type are insufficient for all needs. I wait a more powerfull tool for Joomla to manage content list, but you are right currently there is none and it is really a big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Eike</title>
		<link>http://diebesteallerzeiten.de/blog/2009/08/10/i-think-ive-just-about-had-it-with-joomla/comment-page-1/#comment-16405</link>
		<dc:creator>Eike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t look much into 1.6 (yet), but after reading an &lt;a href=&quot;http://developer.joomla.org/coordinator-blog/286-happy-new-year-2009-is-going-to-be-a-big-one-point-six.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article on the roadmap&lt;/a&gt; I can at least say that the developers have very different ideas of what constitutes a feature than I have. &quot;Refactor user management&quot;, refactor &quot;Parameters&quot;, &quot;refactor JError&quot;, &#039;Finish MVC-ing the Administrator components&#039;.... rewriting code to do the same  thing as before (albeit more efficiently) is not the same as adding features. So what we will get after at least four more Beta-versions is user management and comments, and I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s worth waiting for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t look much into 1.6 (yet), but after reading an <a href="http://developer.joomla.org/coordinator-blog/286-happy-new-year-2009-is-going-to-be-a-big-one-point-six.html" rel="nofollow">article on the roadmap</a> I can at least say that the developers have very different ideas of what constitutes a feature than I have. &#8220;Refactor user management&#8221;, refactor &#8220;Parameters&#8221;, &#8220;refactor JError&#8221;, &#8216;Finish MVC-ing the Administrator components&#8217;&#8230;. rewriting code to do the same  thing as before (albeit more efficiently) is not the same as adding features. So what we will get after at least four more Beta-versions is user management and comments, and I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s worth waiting for.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, I&#039;m not a programmer but sometimes assembly site for certain customers, so, I can not be as deep in criticizing joomla.

Seeing the point you make about Joomla developers, and the pace of development.

Joomla 1.6 Everyone in the community are saying, this is the best thing that came to the community.

Joomla 1.6 brings major changes, I stopped working on my spanish website. I am awaiting the first test version to see what is in reality.

And I have felt exactly that. Compared with others. Joomla has brought applications development, little and too late.

It&#039;s like being in a constant change which changes only a little and a little more.

I will love to read your opinion on Joomla 1.6, of course, as a programmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, I&#8217;m not a programmer but sometimes assembly site for certain customers, so, I can not be as deep in criticizing joomla.</p>
<p>Seeing the point you make about Joomla developers, and the pace of development.</p>
<p>Joomla 1.6 Everyone in the community are saying, this is the best thing that came to the community.</p>
<p>Joomla 1.6 brings major changes, I stopped working on my spanish website. I am awaiting the first test version to see what is in reality.</p>
<p>And I have felt exactly that. Compared with others. Joomla has brought applications development, little and too late.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like being in a constant change which changes only a little and a little more.</p>
<p>I will love to read your opinion on Joomla 1.6, of course, as a programmer.</p>
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